Thu, 29 Apr 2004 04:31:35
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Pat Tillman is not a hero: He got what was coming to him
*Update: Michele at A Small Victory fisks this sonofabitch quite nicely. Her *only* mistake is this miserable puke’s gender.
Posted by JimK at 04:31 AM on April 29, 2004
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#2 Posted by Rann
on 04/29 at 07:46 AM -
I’d explain, but he’d be missing some of those piano keys he calls teeth…
#3 Posted by J. Alexander Lollie
on 04/29 at 08:28 AM -
My God, it’s the bastard child of Gilbert Gottfried and Janeane Garofalo.\r
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We played basketball with a kid like this in high school. Little bastard never would fit through the hoop.
#4 Posted by Leftie on 04/29 at 11:00 AM -
Why you call the Lefts ‘Loony Left’ are beyond me when this site is full of d*ckhead and moron. Read the article for f*ck sake, who wrote it, or maybe all of you don’t know the different between a man and a woman. What a bunch of morons.
#5 Posted by JimK
on 04/29 at 11:24 AM -
Maybe that is not the author...the name alone is not enough of a clue. However, the goddamned piece of shit that wrote the article is still the lowest form of life I’ve read this week.\r
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Tillman did NOT get “what he deserved,” and if you think so, I dare you to stand in front of any Army Ranger on EARTH and say it.\r
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Fucking pussies.
#6 Posted by JimK
on 04/29 at 11:27 AM -
Oh you fucking pricks. That IS him. Check the Google search, motherfuckers.
#7 Posted by Bruce
on 04/29 at 01:10 PM -
I see he was nice enough to include his e-mail addresses on his homepage. Wonder how long they’ll be active.\r
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I know several people who are against US involvement in Iraq (deranged as that may be), but they all agree that the operations in Afghanistan are entirely justified and a noble cause, necessary to ensure our security.\r
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This kid is just an un...rather, mis-educated leftist twit. Just being him is a severe punishment, although he doesn’t realize that yet.\r
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Sad.\r
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At least the People’s Republic of Massachusetts and the powers to be at Zoo Mass won’t let him carry a firearm to defend himself from impending physical assault.
#8 Posted by Josparke
on 04/29 at 01:44 PM -
Dude, that Google search list reads like a Libtard resume… That F***er gets around!
#9 Posted by jo-jo
on 04/29 at 01:46 PM -
p.s. i did mean to add that i think that guy’s a fucktard ;)
#10 Posted by JimK
on 04/29 at 02:55 PM -
I do NOT advocate doing him any kind of violence. However, I do advocate making him repeat himself to someone who has lost a loved one in military service, or to a Ranger. Let him look Tillman’s father or mother in the eye and say that shit.\r
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It’s easy for academia to talk a lot of shit when they don’t have to face the poeple they are talking about.
#11 Posted by Eric
on 04/29 at 03:14 PM -
I think that this goober deserves to get his ass physically kicked. There are some things you just don’t do, and insulting the memory of a hero to satisfy your own political ideals is one of them; in my opinion, this author has gone WAY over the line of tolerable behavior and deserves his comeuppance.
#12 Posted by mo3
on 04/29 at 03:59 PM -
What a sad sad person.\r
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He should be shunned by everyone with any common sense.
#13 Posted by jo-jo
on 04/29 at 04:10 PM -
jim: i know you weren’t. and i think what he said was disgusting, and it’s guys like him (and moore) who make us liberals look like idiots.\r
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eric: i think you’re wrong. i guess we’re just down to a matter of opinion then.
#14 Posted by Richard McEnroe
on 04/29 at 04:14 PM -
You rightwing bullies don’t get it.\r
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It’s not free speech if your audience is allowed to talk back. This poor misunderstood child of progress is obviously being oppressed.\r
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Mind you, that’s a face that pretty much begs to be slapped. Betcha he grows up to be a personal liability attorney specializing in DUI’s, slip-and-falls and swoop-and-stops…
#15 Posted by michele
on 04/29 at 04:54 PM -
I emailed and challenged him to a debate. Let’s see if he respons.
#16 Posted by jo-jo
on 04/29 at 04:55 PM -
i’m an attorney (nothing CLOSE to personal injury or liability), and i have no clue what a swoop and stop is....\r
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i’m curious ;)
#17 Posted by S.C.H.
on 04/29 at 05:01 PM -
Let’s look at Rene is majoring in.HMMMM? African studies and jazz.So he hacks on a man who graduated IN 3 1/2 years with a 3.8 grade point,who set a franchise record depite being undersized compared to others in the nfl,who rode his bike to work,refused more money to stay loyal to the team who drafted him,who refused a commison to stay enlisted,and lastly, amn who put his life on the line to defend not only our freedoms but the freedoms of the afgani people.OH yeah, he’s real qualified to judge another.The saddest part of this whole affair is that he is obviously going to go into teaching with a degree like that and will end up poisoning the minds of others with his ignorance.
#18 Posted by JimK
on 04/29 at 05:11 PM -
That’s what bugs me about this guy. He’s probably going to be a teacher. His degrees are useless for much else unless he’s going to be an activist professionally.\r
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See, my brother-in-law (the John Cross that posts here in the comments) is going to be a teacher. He’s a “lefty.” But he’s going to make a damned good teacher because he takes the time to see alternate points of view...and that is really the essence of educating, young kids, I think. Until high school/college, you’re really teaching them *how* to learn. How to look at a problem or idea from different ways in order to solve it. And I believe that John will do that...plus he’s fun and that will make him the cool teach. :)\r
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Based on what is so far a cursory examination of Gonzalez’ publically available info...I see him as the opposite of that.
#19 Posted by Ryley Hayes
on 04/29 at 07:13 PM -
I dont think the guy should be physically assulted, but if I met him face to face it would be very hard not to pimp slap that grin off of his face.\r
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#20 Posted by Fred Masters
on 04/29 at 07:19 PM -
I remember a time when America was stronger, a time when it was OK to beat the shit out of someone (if he was bigger than you) if he said something stupid. Why can’t we go back to that time?
#21 Posted by Aimee
on 04/29 at 07:24 PM -
They’ve posted a “counterpoint column” by a student named Matt Reid. It’s titled “The extraordinary life of an ordinary man is remembered” (linked to my name). Money quote:\r
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If Pat Tillman were watching, he most likely would disapprove of the proposed plan to dedicate the entire upcoming NFL season to him. And he certainly would object to columns such as this, which make him out to be a hero. However, it’s impossible to describe Pat Tillman without using some hyperbole. He is not a hero because he was an extraordinary man. He is a hero because he was an ordinary man that did extraordinary things. His heroism has nothing to do with his death, but with his life\r
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I’ve left a feedback message thanking him for the article. I’d love to see the list of “thank you’s” to Matt be as long as the list of “how dare you’s” on Rene’s POS. Anyone wanna join me?
#22 Posted by Lee
on 04/29 at 08:30 PM -
don’t get me wrong, saying that this guy is a fucktard is YOUR freedom of speech. posting a picture and saying “if you see this guy, kick his ass” (not a direct quote, i know) ... i’m not sure where that gets you...\r
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Satisfaction. And, for the record, on my site I openly stated that I wanted someone to drive a claw hammer through his skull, then set his corpse on fire. And I meant it.
#24 Posted by Ken
on 04/29 at 10:24 PM -
For some reason, Hank Hill’s descriptor of “twig boy” comes to mind… and it has nothing to do with body size.
#25 Posted by Eileen
on 04/29 at 10:29 PM -
You are a complete idiot! This man died to protect our freedom and this is how you behave...you are a disgrace...go live somewhere else. Your comments and photo make me sick…
#26 Posted by Fred Masters
on 04/30 at 12:14 AM -
“And, for the record, on my site I openly stated that I wanted someone to drive a claw hammer through his skull, then set his corpse on fire. And I meant it."\r
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Hey, some people NEED killin’.
#27 Posted by J. Alexander Lollie
on 04/30 at 01:52 AM -
“anyone paying $30K a year to get a music degree in my opinion has already proven they are an idiot"\r
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I guarantee you he’s not paying for it. You and I are paying for it through federally funded “minority"-only scholarships.\r
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Justice will be served here, trust me.
#28 Posted by jo-jo
on 04/30 at 02:44 AM -
anyone paying $30K a year to get a music degree in my opinion has already proven they are an idiot\r
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that’s fucking brilliant, dumbass. nice to know how little you know.
#29 Posted by JimK
on 04/30 at 02:52 AM -
To them America is an evil place because it provides equality of opportunity not of results. Nothing angers these people more than those that work hard and believe this country and its people are the best, and prove it every day with their actions.\r
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Very, very true. The important point here is that SO many people, and more every day, feel that the role of government is to guarantee them life, liberty and happiness.\r
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No, dumbass, the role of government is to guarantee you a society in which you may PERSUE those lofty goals. It is not the role of government to hand them to you.\r
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anyone paying $30K a year to get a music degree in my opinion has already proven they are an idiot\r
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Ehhh...not so much. Music is vital to humanity. I would love to have been more serious about music in my youth, about the study of it, the history, the creation. I don’t quite agree with the idea that a music degree is wasted. Music is important to me. I’m not going to criticize him for that.\r
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Gonzalez has so many other qualities for which to despise him.
#30 Posted by JimS
on 04/30 at 05:25 AM -
Here is Rene Gonzalez�s e-mail and phone number at UMASS:\r
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Time for the Marines to tell it to him.
#31 Posted by Emperor Misha I
on 04/30 at 05:30 AM -
Sure, he has an absolute right to disagree with the Administration’s policies all he wants, and I wouldn’t dream of rearranging his ugly mug over it.\r
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But he fucking well WILL show some respect for our soldiers, at least if he ever (G-d help him) finds himself around me.\r
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“Freedom of Speech” doesn’t mean “Freedom of Consequences of Speech”, and if somebody were to piss on the grave of a soldier in my presence, they’d soon learn about those consequences.\r
#32 Posted by JimK
on 04/30 at 05:35 AM -
BTW, that info on him is public record, found by a simple Google search, and in no way violates Gonzalez’ privacy. Just to head off any potential complaints.
#33 Posted by ScottJ
on 04/30 at 07:01 AM -
I’m about to go overseas and fight. I was a national guardsman so a lot of my friends think I’m crazy for being happy that I’m leaving a life and career to risk my life for people that dont want us there. The best quote I’ve heard was that “freedom isn’t free, we just pick up the tab.” I’m sure CPL Tillman felt the same way I do towards this country and the people in it. I well up when I hear the star spangled banner and I can’t help but think to myself this is the greatest country when I see the flag. I am fighting for the protection of lardmouths like gonzalez from terrorists and any threat to this country just the same as I fight for my family that thinks I am a hero. This is the country I love. CPL Tillman is a HERO nobody can or ever will disgrace his memory.
#34 Posted by annie s
on 04/30 at 07:27 AM -
His parents must be sooooo proud...and Scott J thank you for the service to our country and may God keep you and all of our military safe!
#35 Posted by Gary D.
on 04/30 at 07:32 AM -
Use the WIMP as a human shield. The cannon fodder AHole !!!
#36 Posted by Will Dangerfield
on 04/30 at 07:52 AM -
Rene,\r
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Maybe you shouldn’t accept your minority scholarships from a government you disagree with so much. After all, those dollars paying for your education (and I use the term loosely after seeing your major and minor) could have come from bloody oil money. Furthermore, you can take you anti-American rhetoric back to your wannabe 51st state and think about how your people would still be in the dark ages if it wasn’t for the benevolence and aid of the United States of America. Comprende?
#38 Posted by JimK
on 04/30 at 08:53 AM -
Janna, you are *awesome*. I am proud to call you friend (if I may be so presumptous).
#39 Posted by J. Alexander Lollie
on 04/30 at 11:08 AM -
Thanks for posting the e-mail address and phone number. Mr. Gonzalez is now a member of NAMBLA (assuming he wasn’t already).
#40 Posted by Frank Wright
on 04/30 at 12:10 PM -
I’m I the ONLY one that finds it strange a PIN HEAD like this guy goes to a school whose mascot is the Minute Man. Thank GOD he wasn’t around in 1776 or we would still be sipping tea and talking with an accent! I bet his idea of a REAL hero is Benedict Arnold. He probaly has posters of him in his dorm room.
#41 Posted by Delftsman3
on 04/30 at 04:37 PM -
ScotJ: Thank you for your service, It’s great to know that the there are still a majority of true patriotic people willing to put their money where their mouth is and shoulder the cost that remaing free entails.\r
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IBBill: Rene Knucklehead ISN’Ta freshman, he’s a graduate student, that he has survived this long with an attitude such as his is a testament to the mindset of academia in the U.S.\r
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The fact that Mr.Knucklehead is getting his <s>education</s> indoctrination at the expense of the american public is sickening. I sincerely hope that after he has been out in the “real world” for a reasonable amount of time,he will realize just how much of a Pendajo he was and will work to rectify his past errors. (a person can dream, can’t he?)\r
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Lollie, NAMBLA?! THAT is priceless! I would love to see his face when he recieves his membership packet!
#42 Posted by Bill Hunt
on 04/30 at 06:46 PM -
Well I could go with calling him names and shouting cruel verbal remarks, but hey its be done........Who am I kidding? This assclown should been sent packing (whatever he likes,lol fudge whatever) right back to Puerto Rico, you know to help him see how good he has things here in the USA.
#43 Posted by Janna
on 04/30 at 07:07 PM -
Janna, you are *awesome*. I am proud to call you friend (if I may be so presumptous).\r
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Well thank ya sir! And you may be so presumptous as I definately consider you a friend as well.
#44 Posted by Krukman
on 04/30 at 08:39 PM -
Hey Rene ... How about I carve the #40 on your pigeon chest? You fucking pussy. It is quite obvious to me that the best part of you ran down the crack of your momma’s ass and wound up as a brown stain on the mattress. You are a poor excuse for a human being. Do us all a favor you worthless piece of shit and move to France...\r
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#45 Posted by SwainDogg
on 04/30 at 08:53 PM -
I Attend the UMASS, and That is Rene Gonzalez. The little fucker has pissed off AlL 30,000 students here! He has death threats beyond belief, and it suits him right, that little faggot! You may oppose the war, But DO NOT disrespect a man of such honor and pride. You can tell by rene’s style of writing that he was never good at sports, and has never been laid, and was very jealous of tillmans status in society(great at anything he did)! Rene, i will be ashamed to be part of umass if they let you get your doctorate! Get the fuck out of the US you piece of shit! Go live in Afganistan, which is probably the only country that will let you in, so tillmans brother can put bullett right through your eddie munster lookin grill. Rene, you are the ultimate scum, piece of shit, asshole, and if i see you walkin around campus, im gonna wear my tillman jersey and beat the fuck out of you!
#46 Posted by SwainDogg
on 04/30 at 08:56 PM -
Anyone want to come visit me at umass, so we can beat teh shit out of this faggot email me: Gonzalez can stay....Rene Gonzalez needs a beat down!
#47 Posted by ccobb9
on 04/30 at 09:08 PM -
Anyone wanna come to Umass and find this women or man or whatever it is and stone it in public, just email or im me and anytime this weekend is good cause everyone will be wasted starting at noon on sat.... ccobb9 or
#48 Posted by Sickened
on 04/30 at 09:09 PM -
ccobb9’s previous statement a perfect proof of someone who is moe idiotic than Gonzalez.
#49 Posted by ccobb9
on 04/30 at 09:10 PM -
also to whoever wrote the message from sickened, go fuck yourslef u stupid hippie fuckin pussy show ur face
#50 Posted by Sickened
on 04/30 at 09:10 PM -
ccobb9’s previous statement is perfect proof of someone who is more idiotic than Gonzalez
#51 Posted by SwainDogg
on 04/30 at 09:12 PM -
ASSHOLES, this IS RENE GONZALEZ he made that webpage when he was a FRESHMAN UNDERGRAD at UMASS when he was a Music MAJOR! He has since changed his major to POLY SCI, and is now a grad student...THAT IS RENE TO ALL YOU FAGS WHO DONT GO TO UMASS!
#52 Posted by SwainDogg
on 04/30 at 09:13 PM -
SICKENED, go get laid you wannabe intellect! You and Rene should be shot in the sphincter chamber!
#53 Posted by Sickened
on 04/30 at 09:17 PM -
SwainDogg, as far as intellect goes, you are proving that you do not have any. Also, I don’t think you are doing your cause any good with the language you’re using. You soung like an uneducated fool.
#54 Posted by bw
on 04/30 at 09:29 PM -
Yeah, take it easy, there, SwainDogg—if that is your real name. I’m not the enemy here. I didn’t go to ZooMass. Didn’t need a safety school. If that’s him, that’s him. Great. Go get him.
#55 Posted by SwainDogg
on 04/30 at 09:35 PM -
Safety school? Safety school? this is one of the best state colleges in the country, better check urself bitch. Most kids here are from Hard working BLUE collar families. Not everyone can afford harvard, or yale you bitch. But im sure u went to a community college BW. Eat a dick pal
#56 Posted by bw
on 04/30 at 09:42 PM -
Yes. As you can tell from my writing style—fluent, relatively free of curses and gramattical errors—I must have gone to a community college. I threw safety school at you to get you riled. Because it is fun to rile you. I will continue to rile you all day, too. If you are not careful, I will disguise a compliment in language you don’t understand and we can all have a laugh while you blast back about something else you don’t understand. What are you, about 19, 20? Just sit back and let the adults (and some of the more eloquent students) discuss world events, okay?
#57 Posted by Heinrich Walker
on 04/30 at 09:53 PM -
You and Rene should be shot in the sphincter chamber!\r
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WHAT HORRORS FROM ANOTHER WORLD AWAIT YOU IN THE SPHINCTER CHAMBER??? OPEN THE VAULTED DOOR AND PEER INSIDE THE SPHINCTER CHAMBER!!!\r
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Seriously, the Sphincter Chamber.
#58 Posted by SwainDogg
on 04/30 at 09:55 PM -
I can tell from your writing style, that you are middle aged, balding, and probably using viagra about now. You have never been laid, you were probably made fun of in highschool, in fact, you and rene have a lot in common. Yea im 21, and definately not an English major! advanced mathematics and Earth science are my speciality. Im in college, and am done with classes but yet you have nothing else to do with your time but “RILE” a college student? You dont have work? But i can definately tell you dont have a life, but just hop around from post to post commenting on everyday “world issues”. As far as swearing goes, Swears make an impact, a statement to the sentance, hence...FUCK YOU BW
#59 Posted by MAJOR CHUCK COFTY, USMC, RET.
on 04/30 at 10:15 PM -
RENE: IF THEY PUT YOUR BRAIN IN A THIMBLE IT WOULD RATTLE LIKE A BB IN A COFFEE CAN. YOU SHOULD BE PACKED UP SENT BACK TO YOUR LITTLE HOLE IN THE PR WHERE YOU LONGER WOULD GET FREE EDUCATION, ASSISTANCE, FOOD STAMPS AND WELFARE AND ALL WITHOUT PAYING ANY TAX. I WISH I HAD YOU IN MY MARINE CORPS FOR JUST TWO DAYS. YOUR LITTLE GRIN WOULD BE GONE AND SHEER AGONY WOULD REPLACE IT. IT WOULD BE BLANKET PARTY TIME FOR YOUR SKINNY LITTLE BEHIND. WORMS LIKE YOU DISGUST ME AND MAKE ME EVEN MORE SURE THAT YOUR KIND SHOULD NOT BE ADMITTED INTO STATEHOOD IN THE UNITED STATES. I DON’T CURSE BUT IDIOTS LIKE MAKE ME WANT TO.
#60 Posted by bw
on 04/30 at 10:16 PM -
Wrong on all counts. But, you are getting a little better at expressing yourself. I’ll attribute the spelling errors to your haste to get all your thoughts down before they disappear into the ether. I do take comfort in knowing that we have such luminaries in our advanced mathematics college ranks. I’m sure it will come in handy when you are counting out change from the drawer. No, I am only a few years older than you, dude. And yes, I do have better things to do than RILE a college student. But, I mean, let’s face it, you are easy to rile. And I am sure the other people reading this post are getting bored with our little pissing contest. So I’ll stop. I also hope that other students at UMass will chime in and represent their school in a better way than you or Rene. I’m guessing you are from Southie with that mouth. And if you don’t behave, I’m going to have to give you a spanking.
#61 Posted by SwainDogg
on 04/30 at 10:32 PM -
HAHA,nice ending… ur a fag, but ill stop with all this. later bw
#62 Posted by RENAL GONIDIOT
on 04/30 at 11:00 PM -
hey idiots (bw, sickened, etc.). you know why people are so pissed off? it’s because this idiot RENAL made comments that are equivalent to what happened to those security guards in iraq. when he spewed forth this evil diatribe...he essentially was killing Tillman all over again, setting fire to his corpse, chopping off his limbs, and stringing him up on a bridge. what this idiot has written is so horrifying that i can understand that many people here cannot even believe that this person is even capable of human sympathy!!!!!!
#63 Posted by Lord Fuelfire
on 05/01 at 12:00 AM -
I didn’t want to read through the billions of replies, so if someone already posted these, then I apologize:\r
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#64 Posted by RENAL GONIDIOT
on 05/01 at 12:19 AM -
the UMass e-mail address apparently is not taking e-mail anymore or has been overloaded with mail\r
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the hotmail account...might be nearing its limit too
#65 Posted by LC Curtis the Marine
on 05/01 at 12:42 AM -
Re: http://www.dailycollegian.com/ “The system is down, yo."\r
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Re: Music. Sorry to break it to some of you, but like all “art,” music is purely a luxury. Teaching might be a noble profession (practically my whole family teaches), but teaching music appreciation? Not so much, I dare say. (In fact, I’ll even go so far as to say that the value of teaching is directly proportional to the value of the subject being taught.) There are a very few basic things in life that we need to survive--food, water, shelter--and music isn’t one of them. I love music, but I won’t die without it.
#66 Posted by jo-jo
on 05/01 at 02:13 AM -
lc curtis: music and art define culture. i agree that it’s not necessary to live, but it’s (IMHO) necessary to live fully!\r
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i also agree not all subjects are as important as others, but i think any education is important nonetheless. i will agree with you that the basics certainly take priority over the, well, for lack of better words, nonbasics ;). i in NO way meant to make it seem like i thought rene was noble just for taking a route that could ONLY lead to teaching. i was making a MUCH broader statement (in direct response to a comment) that an undergrad music degree is not per se proof of someone being an idiot ;)\r
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for the record, in case i wasn’t clear in my comment, my husband is going to be an elementary school teacher, not a music appreciation teacher (despite his degree from Berklee College of Music)… which, again IMHO, is truly noble indeed :)
#67 Posted by JimK
on 05/01 at 06:27 AM -
There is no reason to physically touch the kid. Pat Tillman died so that that kid would have the right to say the thigs he said.\r
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Honor Tillman by honoring the kid’s right to speak without being beaten. This kid is a jerk of the HIGHEST order, and probably *deserves* a beating, but we have to be better than that. I’d love to pop him in the mouth, but I wouldn’t. One, I believe in his right to say it, however stupid it is. Two, he gets to be the victim of a crime then...and the whole situation gets reversed. He’s no longer the jerk, the bad guy...I would be the bad guy, the jerk in the court of public opinion, and I would be arrested.\r
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None of that is useful, to me or to Tillman’s memory.\r
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I urge all of you, feel free to share his publically available information. Talk about him. Confront him if you feel you have to, but DO NOT LAY A HAND ON HIM. See how awful the situation has gotten in Iraq for the *good* soldiers that did not abuse prisoners? That’s the same thing you’re doing to those of us who remain civil about our disgust for Rene Gonzalez. YOu make us ALL look bad.\r
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DO NOT think you can use my site as a launching pad to organize a posse. I do not condone it in ANY way.
#68 Posted by JimK
on 05/01 at 06:28 AM -
Oh, and as for music? I agree with jo-jo...it is not necessary to live, but it is necessary to live well. :)
#69 Posted by LC Curtis the Marine
on 05/01 at 09:59 PM -
i was making a MUCH broader statement (in direct response to a comment) that an undergrad music degree is not per se proof of someone being an idiot ;)\r
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But in Rene’s case, it just seems to fit. The term “useless idiot” springs to mind.\r
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for the record, in case i wasn’t clear in my comment, my husband is going to be an elementary school teacher, not a music appreciation teacher (despite his degree from Berklee College of Music)… which, again IMHO, is truly noble indeed :)\r
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Rock on. My coworker’s son is going to Berklee next year. And she used to be an elementary school teacher. What synchronicity!\r
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Oh, and as for music? I agree with jo-jo...it is not necessary to live, but it is necessary to live well. :)\r
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That depends on what you listen to, doesn’t it? :)
#70 Posted by JimK
on 05/02 at 04:21 AM -
Oh, and as for music? I agree with jo-jo...it is not necessary to live, but it is necessary to live well. :)\r
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That depends on what you listen to, doesn’t it? :)\r
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I think my musical taste just got insulted.\r
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Pistols at dawn, sir, for this trangression upon my musical honor shall not go unanswered. ;)
#71 Posted by nice1212
on 05/04 at 08:12 AM -
As A Umass graduate I am sicked by Rene’s comments. They make my stomic turn. At the same time though it is his right and privilage to say what he thinks free of harm. I also think the kkk is disgusting and I would like to kill everyone of them but we cant. there are not a thousand posts screeming about a lot of the social wrong doings. as much as I think that Rene is flat out wrong please please people dont be as stupid as him. Challange him on his ideas make him look wrong, take away what he holds dear his intelect. Dont just say i am going to find you and kick your ass. Dont make his point for him. Get out of the 4th grade and handle things the way americans pride themselves on doing thing. by taking the moral high ground. Let people speak free of fear or else someday soon someone will invade us and say they are liberating us from a opperesive rule. I see people on hear quoting the boston tea party. That was done to stop opperation and for the right to speak and have representation. I think Pat Tillman (great man) and the people at the tea party did it so people could speak and voice desecnt.
#72 Posted by JimK
on 05/06 at 01:13 AM -
“That said - and I’m not fan of Rene’s purely based on having had class with him - sending death threats to his family is just pathetic. Almost as pathetic as what Rene wrote. I think your satisfaction should come from the fact that he’ll probably never be able to get a job with this attached to his name.”\r
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Hear hear. I love that you took the time to stop by and post that entire comment...thanks. It’s nice to hear from someone who knows this guy.\r
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“I’m left wing and not a freak. Well, maybe I am;)”\r
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Heh. Well, feel free to come back and be freaky any time. Your comments were well said, and I’d welcome that kind of thoughtful debate any day!\r
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Maybe my view of academia is tainted a bit being in New Haven...Yale and all. Talk about your insular ivory towers. Nothing beats Yale for that. Except maybe Harvard. :)
#73 Posted by Will F.
on 05/09 at 10:53 PM -
At least now when one performs a google search for the terms “moron” or “douchebag”, Rene Gonzales’ name automatically appears as one of the early findings. He should put that on his fucking resume’ when we get done paying for his education.
#74 Posted by Mike
on 05/11 at 12:46 AM -
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Extensive coverage of the near-unanimous negative reaction to the column in the Massachusetts Daily Collegian written by graduate student Rene Gonzalez saying that former NFL player and Army Ranger Pat Tillman who was killed in Afghanistan was not a hero. UMass President Jack M. Wilson issued a statement saying Gonzalez�s comments “are a disgusting, arrogant, and intellectually immature attack on a human being who died in the service of his country.” Gonzalez is reportedly in hiding and has told members of the Collegian staff he has received death threats. Gonzalez also reported apologized to Tillman�s family in an e-mail to a Boston television reporter. The Student Government Association has also called on Gonzalez to resign from his campus job as an advisor to minority students. John Nelson, English, says he doesn�t recall anyone talking about a soldier�s death in such terms during the Vietnam War. (Globe, Herald, Republican, AP, Recorder [from AP], WFCR, 4/29/04; WBZ TV-4, WHDH TV-7, WWLP TV-22, NECN, 4/29/04; News Office contact and assistance)\r
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#1 Posted by paratrooper
on 04/29 at 07:04 AM -
Here is a picture of the asshat who wrote that article.\r
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If any of you on the Umass campus see him, please explain why he shouldn’t be smirking like that.