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Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:18:00

Heroes - Truth & Consequences

1. My elbow is screaming so I have to keep this short.
2. Spoilers after the jump!

Awesome: HRG going instantly wide awake, lucid and straining against the bed restraints the instant Mohinfuck mentioned Claire.  Awesomer: Hiro squaring up against Peter and telling him that he picked the wrong side.  Awesomest: Sylar.  Powerless, he’s still the most evil sonofabitch you never want to meet.

Things that are annoying me; Peter trusting Adam over Hiro and believing anything Adam says, no matter how ridiculous.  Also, Peter being motivated to stop the virus not to save his brother, who he knows dies in the great plague, but to save some half-ugly girl he knew for a frigging week.  That’s ridiculous and contradicts what we already know about Peter, that he loves, is devoted to and looks up to his brother, and would move the world to save him.

I guess that’s all been forgotten.  Also Peters forgotten that Hiro is completely trustworthy and perhaps the best person he’s ever met, mush less the best person in that room.

Another thing that made me go “Err, whaaa?” Why didn’t Monica even TRY to fight back?  She watched a shit-ton of fighting movies and we were led to believe that she can already do a lot, physically, in a fighting sense.  So why did she do absolutely nothing?  Was it just fear that made her freeze?  It seemed like one of those “the writers aren’t paying attention to things that have gone before” things, but I could buy that she was just scared.

The number one thing about Heroes that I hate: Mohinder.  I don’t like the actor, but in fairness I don’t like the character, and maybe I don’t like the actor because he’s doing a great job.  I want to see Mohinder suffer for being a Class A moron.  I want someone to punch him in the face repeatedly, and with every punch, list another terrible, idiotic, simpy, wimpy decision he’s made.  I think he’s going to cure Sylar.  It would be better to let Molly DIE than to cure Sylar, but Mohinder is a complete and utter tool.  So of course he’ll make the worst decision possible.

BTW, I don’t think Hiro is out solely for revenge.  He wouldn’t just do revenge.  The fact that Adam is doing very bad things, and obviously has been for 400 years, is allowing Hiro to give in to the idea of revenge without feeling that terrible about it.  It’s not just revenge, it’s also justice, and it will protect the world from Adam.


Posted by JimK at 09:18 PM on November 27, 2007
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Christian#1  Posted by Christian United States on 11/28 at 12:08 AM -

How bad do we hate Mohinder? He will, when pushed, do the absolutely wrong thing every single freaking time. Has he ever, ever in the whole time we have seen him, ever not done the exact opposite of should be done? UGH...Can he be the one who dies?

Oh, and even more awesomer? The pieces of Glass falling out of Claire’s hand as it heals. On my new big ass tv, it was aaaaaaaaaawwwwwwweeeeesomeeeee.

#2  Posted by Buzzion United States on 11/28 at 12:29 AM -

Peter trusting Adam over Hiro and believing anything Adam says, no matter how ridiculous

This is a bit annoying yes.  But also Hiro didn’t tell Peter that Adam tried to release the virus in the past.  With that information he may have sided with Hiro.  But he currently has a feeling of obligation towards Adam for saving his brother and wanting to believe that Adam wants to destroy the virus, and Adam knows the facility.  And Peter is going to end up regretting it.  I do believe though that Peter’s radiation ability is what will be needed to destroy the virus.

Also, Peter being motivated to stop the virus not to save his brother, who he knows dies in the great plague, but to save some half-ugly girl he knew for a frigging week.  That’s ridiculous and contradicts what we already know about Peter, that he loves, is devoted to and looks up to his brother, and would move the world to save him.

I think I’ve got this one.  Obviously Peter knows that stopping the virus will save the lives of 93% of the world’s population including his brother.  And that is definitely his motivation.  But also he took Kaitlyn into the future and she is basically trapped there because of it.  She’s an innocent who is in danger because of him.  Pratt may not have accepted his need to save his brother but she may have felt more obligated to help him because he wanted to help a normal person.

Also Peters forgotten that Hiro is completely trustworthy and perhaps the best person he’s ever met, mush less the best person in that room.

Consider this, except for their conversation on the phone, I believe Peter has only actually seen the real Hiro in person exactly one time before; the showdown with Sylar where Hiro showed up and stabbed him.  Can you think of any other time where Hiro and Peter were together? 

Why didn’t Monica even TRY to fight back?

She was up in the ceiling, and no matter what she saw she can not learn the speed to dodge a bullet.  After that who knows, is there really any fighting style that can help you in fighting a group of guys in the middle of the stairwell?  The better question is why the fuck didn’t she leave the way she came and just wait for everyone to go inside and climb down?

I think he’s going to cure Sylar.  It would be better to let Molly DIE than to cure Sylar, but Mohinder is a complete and utter tool. 

I think he will cure Sylar, because he’s got the cure right there.  Sylar will realize it and steal it.  Possibly even fulfill your wish and kill Mohinder.  I think he’s definitely going to kill Maya.

#3  Posted by sindri United States on 11/28 at 03:32 AM -

I still think some BS is coming to make Adam turn out to be a good guy. Don’t know why. I know he wants to kill everyone cause the world is so screwed up but even that misguided bit of altruism gives them an opening to make him a good guy. Hiro stopping him will be bad somehow and we’ll start all over again next season.

#4  Posted by sindri United States on 11/28 at 03:34 AM -

Two notes JimK:
Any word on when Jericho will be back on?

I think you gave up on Big Bang Theory too soon. It’s actually funny quite a bit in an esoteric sort of way. If you haven’t yet, give it another shot.

#5  Posted by Sean Galbraith St. Pierre and Miquelon on 11/28 at 01:53 PM -

I think I missed a part in the show… how did Sylar find Molly?

Hiro and Peter: Does the subway scene count with Future Hiro?

Monica: I don’t think she fought back because I think she did panic. She hasn’t fully come into her own with her powers when put in such a situation. She can do whatever when the pressure isn’t on.. but this was the first time she’s been challenged so directly. I think it isn’t a stretch to have her freezing.

Good episode.. I like that things are finally picking up steam again.

#6  Posted by Buzzion United States on 11/28 at 02:09 PM -

I think I missed a part in the show… how did Sylar find Molly?

The phonebook?  Look up Suresh?

Hiro and Peter: Does the subway scene count with Future Hiro?

Nope, since that would be a different Hiro.  One that didn’t exist yet and now one that technically never will.

Monica: I don’t think she fought back because I think she did panic. She hasn’t fully come into her own with her powers when put in such a situation. She can do whatever when the pressure isn’t on.. but this was the first time she’s been challenged so directly. I think it isn’t a stretch to have her freezing.

She took on a criminal trying to rob her workplace.  I would say she was under pressure in that situation.  I would really just believe that having a gun to her face and a crowded stairway, anything she had learned would not really have helped her there.

mgnmfrc1#7  Posted by mgnmfrc1 United States on 11/28 at 02:27 PM -

I think I missed a part in the show… how did Sylar find Molly?

Molly lives with Mohinder and Sylar knows where that is, he has been there before. He was looking for Mohinder and found Molly as a bonus. Molly can’t die simply because she is a kid. However it is not out of the realm of evil shit Sylar could pull off and would really make him despised.

I think Monica froze as well. Will she learn to rip people in half when Jessikki-ina comes to the rescue?

From next weeks preview, it looks like Peter puts Hiro down. Don’t know if that means he dies or just gets put out of commission. 2 heroes will fall? Fall as in die or fall as in take the dark path? Methinks Hiro and Elle die.

Bob is turning out to be quite the evil bastard also. Elle might die in some way related to daddy.

#8  Posted by dilvish United States on 11/28 at 03:59 PM -

Here’s my big plot hole question:  why did they need Claire’s blood to cure the virus when the company had two self-healers recently in lockup?  Adam is the original and Peter picked up the ability from Claire.  You’d think the company would have taken blood samples as a matter of course.  The whole Claire abduction subplot was unnecessary.

Also, if Nathan was cured of his burns by Adam’s blood, wouldn’t he then be protected from the virus?

mgnmfrc1#9  Posted by mgnmfrc1 United States on 11/28 at 05:16 PM -

You’d think the company would have taken blood samples as a matter of course.

I agree they probably did. However the company gave Claire to HRG for safe keeping. Is it not possible that the company knows Adams blood will not cure the 138 virus but Claire’s will? Mohinders blood is not 100%, he cured the Hatian but not Jessikki-ina and the virus was mutated by the company and probably has mutated in the wild. Perhaps

mgnmfrc1#10  Posted by mgnmfrc1 United States on 11/28 at 05:17 PM -

Shit, perhaps they need the blood from all the healers?

#11  Posted by Buzzion United States on 11/28 at 06:33 PM -

Perhaps the Company never knew that Adam’s blood could heal other people, and only discovered it after Adam healed Nathan.  That’s a possibility.  Another possibility is that Adam’s blood cannot directly cure the virus.  So it would be pointless to keep his blood on hand.  Remember its not Claire’s blood that is the cure, but Mohinder’s antibodies combined with her blood that is the cure for the new strain.

For Nathan, and now HRG, I don’t think the blood’s healing properties are a permanent fixture.  It will heal your wounds but eventually it will filter out of your system, especially since your body won’t be making more of it like Claire or Adam.

For Peter’s blood, there is the possibility of his blood holding no unique properties after it leaves his body.

#12  Posted by supercore Germany on 11/29 at 12:22 AM -

Perhaps the Company never knew that Adam’s blood could heal other people, and only discovered it after Adam healed Nathan.

Definently could be true. They had Linderman, why would they bother with using Adam to heal people? The rub there is that Adam knew it would heal people. I’m very interested in seeing how he discovered that ability.

Guess to who falls… I’ll say Elle and… West. Claire will get HRG back but lose the boyfriend.

Harley W Daugherty#13  Posted by Harley W Daugherty United States on 11/29 at 12:52 AM -

I think the writers are putting them selves in a corner.

EMalachi#14  Posted by EMalachi United States on 11/30 at 02:48 AM -

Nikki dies.  That much seems obvious from the preview.  There is a scene showing an exploding building with Micah and Monica looking on in horror, so I think Nikki bites it.

It looks like Hiro is downed, but I don’t think they’d kill him.  After all, Peter is a good guy, and Adam wants Hiro to suffer.  No, I think the next one to fall is either Mohinder or Parkman.


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